Letters 08-31-2015

Inalienable Rights This is a response to the “No More State Theatre” in your August 24th edition. I think I will not be the only response to this pathetic and narrow-minded letter that seems rather out of place in the northern Michigan that I know. To think we will not be getting your 25 cents for the movie you refused to see, but more importantly we will be without your “two cents” on your thoughts of a marriage at the State Theatre...

Enthusiastically Democratic Since I was one of the approximately 160 people present at when Senator Debbie Stabenow spoke on August 14 in Charlevoix, I was surprised to read in a letter to Northern Express that there was a “rather muted” response to Debbie’s announcement that she has endorsed Hillary Clinton for president...

Not Hurting I surely think the State Theatre will survive not having the homophobic presence of Colleen Smith and her family attend any matinees. I think “Ms.” Smith might also want to make sure that any medical personnel, bank staff, grocery store staff, waiters and/or waitress, etc. are not homosexual before accepting any service or product from them...

Stay Home I did not know whether to laugh or cry when I read the letter of the extremely homophobic, “disgusted” writer. She now refuses to patronize the State Theatre because she evidently feels that its confines have been poisoned by the gay wedding ceremony held there...

Keep Away In response to Colleen Smith of Cadillac who refused to bring her family to the State Theatre because there was a gay wedding there: Keep your 25 cents and your family out of Traverse City...

Celebrating Moore And A Theatre I was 10 years old when I had the privilege to see my first film at the State Theatre. I will never forget that experience. The screen was almost the size of my bedroom I shared with my older sister. The bursting sounds made me believe I was part of the film...

Outdated Thinking This letter is in response to Colleen Smith. She made public her choice to no longer go to the State Theater due to the fact that “some homosexuals” got married there. I’m not outraged by her choice; we don’t need any more hateful, self-righteous bigots in our town. She can keep her 25 cents...

Mackinac Pipeline Must Be Shut Down Crude oil flowing through Enbridge’s 60-yearold pipeline beneath the Mackinac Straits and the largest collection of fresh water on the planet should be a serious concern for every resident of the USA and Canada. Enbridge has a very “accident” prone track record...

Your Rights To Colleen, who wrote about the State Theatre: Let me thank you for sharing your views; I think most of us are well in support of the first amendment, because as you know- it gives everyone the opportunity to express their opinions. I also wanted to thank Northern Express for not shutting down these types of letters right at the source but rather giving the community a platform for education...

No Role Model [Fascinating Person from last week’s issue] Jada quoted: “I want to be a role model for girls who are interested in being in the outdoors.” I enjoy being in the outdoors, but I don’t want to kill animals for trophy...

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Spill the wine...

Rick Coates - November 8th, 2010
Spill the Wine... Bottle ban wrecking the party for Northern Michigan businesses
By Rick Coates
Here in the heart of Michigan’s wine country, diners and restaurateurs
are taking heat from local police for a ‘bring your own bottle’
practice that’s popular -- and legal -- across the nation.
When Mike Curths opened the InsideOut Gallery in TC’s Warehouse
District five years ago, he wanted to create a unique art gallery and
a space for musical, theatrical and cinematic performances. He didn’t
want to be in the bar business.
The same could be said for chefs Eric Patterson and Jennifer Blakeslee
who opened The Cook’s House in Traverse City a couple of years ago.
Their 18-seat bistro was too small to qualify for a liquor license.
From the opening day of their businesses, both Curths and Patterson
allowed their patrons to bring wine and beer to their establishments
in a practice that’s common across the country. But that has since
changed after being notified by the Traverse City Police Department
that this was against the law.

This is where the confusion sets in.
“What I was told by the officer was that I was breaking the law by
allowing people to bring their own beer and wine to events at my place
that have a ticket price attached to them,” said Curths.
“Even though I am not giving them the alcohol -- they are bringing
their own -- I can’t do it. But here is where it gets screwy. If I
have a gallery reception and I do not charge for the event, I can
actually give alcohol away.”
Patterson is up against a similar situation.
“I was told that because I am serving food it is called
‘consideration’ and I am not allowed to have anyone bring their own
bottle of wine in anymore,” said Patterson. “But I am told that if I
do not charge people for food I could give away free wine as well.
Here is the real kicker -- this law does not apply to hotels, so had I
opened my restaurant in a hotel this would be legal.”

Both Patterson and Curths said the Traverse City Police approached
them in a non-threatening way and asked that they get in compliance
with a state statute.
“I was told that the prosecutor  was going to start charging
businesses not in compliance and it could even be a felony,” said
Patterson. “So we stopped. Though someone called the police and said
we were still allowing this and they sent a couple of officers over
who went table to table to ask my guests what they had in their
To make matters worse, both businesses have lost a significant amount
of revenue and customers as a result.
“We felt it immediately. People started opting out of coming to shows
when we told them we couldn’t allow them to come in with their bottle
of wine or their growler of beer,” said Curths. “When I started
exploring a liquor license, they were around $80,000. Way out of my
Patterson is equally frustrated.
“We were allowed to do this for two years. Since June, I have had to
stop and I have lost over 400 reservations through this past week. And
a group of 14 just cancelled for next week,” said Patterson. “We are
not even opening on New Year’s Eve this year, a big night for us
because no one will come without having an opportunity to bring their
own wine in for dinner. Our food at The Cook’s House is made to go
with wine or craft beer. Michigan is the only major wine-producing
state that does not allow the ‘bring your own bottle’ program. Had I
known this I would have opened in Chicago where this is legal.”

Both have taken steps to get liquor licenses. Curths has partnered
with a person who currently owns a liquor license and The Cook’s House
has moved to their Wellington Street Market location that has more
seats in hopes of qualifying for one of the new $20,000 liquor
licenses being offered by the State of Michigan for smaller
There is another aspect of the law that grinds Curths and Patterson.
“The enforcement and interpretation is up to the local authorities,”
said Curths. “So in some communities around the state, law enforcement
has looked away. Plus, when you read the code there are some definite
gray areas. In fact, earlier this year the Liquor Control Commission
held their monthly meeting here in Traverse City and when I explained
what I was doing they looked at each other and basically were baffled
as to whether I was breaking the law or not. And the head of the
commission responded back to me that it was up to the local law
enforcement agencies to decide.”
In a statement posted on the Michigan Liquor Control website from
Chairperson Nida R. Samona dated March 25, 2009, the following was
“Recently, the Michigan Liquor Control Commission has received
numerous inquiries regarding the legality of non-licensed businesses
allowing consumers to consume alcoholic beverages in their
establishments, and numerous inquiries regarding non-licensed
businesses offering free samples of alcoholic beverages to consumers.
The Liquor Control Code of 1998 generally prohibits alcoholic beverage
consumption in non-licensed establishments pursuant to MCL 436.1913
and MCL 436.2027. However, since the participating establishments do
not hold liquor licenses,
the Commission does not have jurisdiction over them and is powerless
to take enforcement action against these unlicensed businesses.
Therefore, the ultimate determination of whether a violation has
occurred rests with the local law enforcement agency and the local

“What is frustrating is there are all sorts of events where
establishments in this town that are not restaurants are allowed to
give away free alcohol,” said Patterson. “We were never giving it
away; we were simply letting people bring it in and we are not the
only ones that have been doing it. It has been going on for a long
time, not only in Traverse City but elsewhere. I also know that some
area wine shops have lost out on a lot of sales because myself, other
restaurants and certainly the InsideOut Gallery were directing our
guests to area shops to get their wine.
Curths feels it’s time that local business, the community, government
and law enforcement leaders create some sort of ordinance and language
that everyone understands.
Grand Traverse Prosecutor Alan Schneider stated that his office has
yet to have a complaint on this matter. When asked what the office’s
interpretation was, he was not in a position to answer.
“We do not work in hypothetical situations. Because facts in a
hypothetical scenario change,” said Schneider. “I have not had
conversations with the police on this. How we work in our office is if
the police feel that someone is breaking the law they file charges and
we investigate those charges and decide if we want to prosecute.”

For Curths and Patterson the possibility of being charged with a
misdemeanor is one thing, but “felony” charges was presented to them
by the police.
“I am told that I can make a wine sauce to serve with my meals without
having a license and some sauces are served on the side in a separate
dish,” said Patterson. “What if my wine sauce is served chilled and in
a glass or served at room temperature in a glass? After all, I am the
chef and if I say that this particular dish is served with a room
temperature Pinot Noir sauce in a glass how is that different then me
making a bourbon sauce and pouring it over the top of the dish? Both
result in the guest having alcohol.”

Next week, local law enforcement, state officials, business and
government leaders weigh in on the ‘bring your own bottle’ issue --
including who is making the decision on how this law is being

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