Letters 10-27-2014

Paging Doctor Dan: The doctor’s promise to repeal Obamacare reminds me of the frantic restaurant owner hurrying to install an exhaust fan after the kitchen burns down. He voted 51 times to replace the ACA law; a colossal waste of money and time. It’s here to stay and he has nothing to replace it.

Evolution Is Real Science: Breathtaking inanity. That was the term used by Judge John Jones III in his elegant evisceration of creationist arguments attempting to equate it to evolutionary theory in his landmark Kitzmiller vs. Dover Board of Education decision in 2005.

U.S. No Global Police: Steven Tuttle in the October 13 issue is correct: our military, under the leadership of the President (not the Congress) is charged with protecting the country, its citizens, and its borders. It is not charged with  performing military missions in other places in the world just because they have something we want (oil), or we don’t like their form of government, or we want to force them to live by the UN or our rules.

Graffiti: Art Or Vandalism?: I walk the [Grand Traverse] Commons frequently and sometimes I include the loop up to the cistern just to go and see how the art on the cistern has evolved. Granted there is the occasional gross image or word but generally there is a flurry of color.

NMEAC Snubbed: Northern Michigan Environmental Action Council (NMEAC) is the Grand Traverse region’s oldest grassroots environmental advocacy organization. Preserving the environment through citizen action and education is our mission.

Vote, Everyone: Election Day on November 4 is fast approaching, and now is the time to make a commitment to vote. You may be getting sick of the political ads on TV, but instead, be grateful that you live in a free country with open elections. Take the time to learn about the candidates by contacting your county parties and doing research.

Do Fluoride Research: Hydrofluorosilicic acid, H2SiF6, is a byproduct from the production of fertilizer. This liquid, not environmentally safe, is scrubbed from the chimney of the fertilizer plant, put into containers, and shipped. Now it is a ‘product’ added to the public drinking water.

Meet The Homeless: As someone who volunteers for a Traverse City organization that works with homeless people, I am appalled at what is happening at the meetings regarding the homeless shelter. The people fighting this shelter need to get to know some homeless families. They have the wrong idea about who the homeless are.

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The Revolution is Already Happening

A decade of online auto sales has changed the relationship between the dealer and the customer

Patrick Sullivan - January 20th, 2014  

The Internet has all but killed newspapers, it’s forced record stores and bookshops underground, and it’s upended the sale of everything from televisions to clothing.

Could car dealerships, with their acres of vehicles and platoons of salespeople, be far behind?

Probably not, says Mike Marsh, an owner at Traverse City’s Bill Marsh Auto Group. But the in the future, physical dealerships will be less important and they might be a bit smaller.

“I think that the dealerships that are on high-cost, highvalue retail space, at the corners of large intersections, and main drags, will become less and less important,” Marsh said. “You’re already seeing dealerships downsizing the size of their lots and their inventory.”

That doesn’t mean we’re not in the middle of a revolution in how cars are bought and sold.

What has changed most, dealers say, is how much information consumers have before they walk onto the lot. That has shifted the balance of power between the customer and the salesperson and it’s caused dealers to reconsider their strategies.


Eighty to 85 percent of customers have been online before they come to the store, said John Cueter, division director of Fox Grand Traverse. He said Internet inquiries generate 25 to 30 percent of his dealership’s actual sales.

Kristin Hooper, Internet manager at Cherry Capital Cadillac and Subaru, said she estimates 90 percent of customers have been online before they visit, meaning shoppers know what’s for sale at Cherry Capital – and what’s offered down the road or on the other side of the state.

“It puts us in competition with dealerships hundreds of miles away,” Hooper said.

Mike McFarlan, Cherry Capital general manager, said customers still want to come to the dealership; they’re just more informed when they arrive.

“At car dealerships, we’ve always talked about floor traffic and people coming in,” McFarlan said. “The Internet today is your floor traffic.”

A cold snowy morning at Cherry Capital was a prime example of that -- Hooper said she arrived to find 15 online sales leads in her inbox.

“I doubt we’ll have five people come in on a day like today, when it’s five degrees,” Hooper said.


Dealers agree we are closer to being able to complete a purchase online, but don’t expect that to be common any time soon.

Bill Marsh has rolled out a program called Shop-Click- Drive for its GM products. A hundred U.S. dealers tested it in 2013; some 900 cars were sold. Of those, GM said only five of the sales were completed online.

That’s in line with what Dana Pratt, e-business director at Bill Marsh, has experienced. An overwhelming number of car shoppers research online, but they want to come to the dealership before they buy.

“In the ideal world, you should be able to go online, pick a car, click, pay for it, and have it delivered to you, right?” Pratt said. “I am experiencing some inroads to that.”

Because of state laws throughout the country, new car sales must go through dealers, so the dealer will be involved in some way for the foreseeable future.

In February, Subaru will enable customers to fill out a credit application on the Subaru website. Customers will be able to select and outfit a model, get financed, and do everything short of sign for the car.

“We can do almost everything by email outside of the final delivery,” said Ryan Bremmeyr, dealer principal at Subaru By-the-Bay in Petoskey.


Another advantage brought to consumers courtesy of the Internet is price transparency.

Dealers approach this in different ways. For some the listed price is firm; for others, it’s elastic. Some list a price online but ask you to contact the dealer to find out about a special deal.

Bill Marsh has offered transparent, no-negotiation pricing since 1997, something Mike Marsh believes puts them in a better position to compete online.

With so much information available, customers can figure out which used cars are priced too high and which are priced right, Marsh said.

“This idea of transparency in pricing, we’re not the only ones who are doing it at this point,” Pratt said. “It’s kind of forcing the market to be true and fair about their pricing.”

The result is price fluctuations for the same make and model of used car are in some cases thousands of dollars smaller than they would have been a decade ago.

“Lets say you’ve got an ’08 Impala and let’s say it’s an LTZ, which is kind of a higher model level. … Before the Internet, the price range for that car could be, let’s call it, $5,000 to $6,000,” Pratt said. “Now, with the Internet, you can’t price that car more than a thousand or two thousand, possibly, depending on where the car is and what market that it’s in and all of that.”


The Internet has added a new challenge for new car sellers, Bremmeyr said. Customers can go to one dealership, select and test drive a vehicle – and then go online to query a handful of others dealers for the best price.

“It definitely has lowered the gross profit of new vehicle sales over the last five years,” he said.

Subaru dealers are fortunate, Bremmeyr said. The cars cost each dealer the same price, so it’s just a matter of who is willing to go the lowest.

This kind of bare-knuckles competition on price has caused dealers to think of new ways to attract in customers. Marsh said his dealership emphasizes making the car-buying experience as positive as possible.

“Perhaps the biggest change that has happened in our industry is for years we didn’t have to assume, we knew customers had to come in to us for information,” Marsh said. “That changes the value that we provide that customer.”

As a result, sales people at Bill Marsh don’t work on commission, and no matter where they work, they can sell any car across the group. Instead of being shuffled to multiple people during the sales process, the same Marsh salesperson handles the transaction from greeting until the paperwork is signed, Marsh said.


These changes have occurred suddenly.

The kind of website dealers use today is less than 10 years old.

Bill Marsh’s website went up in the late 1990s, but it was what Pratt terms a “beginnertype” website until 2005. Pratt took over Internet sales that year and learned how to put what was in the lot onto the web page.

“We became a little radio station. And what we broadcast is what we had to sell -- our cars,” he said.

In the coming years, Bremmeyr believes more technology will come into dealer showrooms. At By-the-Bay, there is already a 50-inch touch-screen to help customers pick out the car and options they want.

The job of a salesperson will change, too. “It’s just going to be a lot more sitting behind the computer,” Bremmeyr said.

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